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Takeshima Sensei passed away.

Author IanJ
#1 | Posted: 3 Oct 2007 22:29 
I have been reading as much as I can find online MJER lineage and teachers. I found this http://ejmas.com/tin/2006tin/tinart_hellsten_0206.html article by Pasi Hellsten on a trip from 2003. Through it I became aware of Takeshima Sensei having been a student of Fukui Harumasa (19th MJER Soke) teaching at Kochi Budokan. I decided to look further as I was interested by what Pasi wrote about their technique being very dynamic.
Sadly the next search found this: http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=28923&sid=ad1945322707f0aa3e3beb0c 6df1f911

Sadly it seems Takeshima sensei is with us no more. Strange that it may be, as I never had opportunity to meet him, I'm very saddened by his loss. I know those of you who were lucky enough to have met him personally will feel it even more so.

I don't know how many more sensei there are remaining of his generation and calibre but they are becoming more and more scarce and it really makes me feel an urgency to learn from them while we still have the option.

If you are serious about your Iai, have the resources to get yourself to japan and opportunity to learn from this generation then please take it, because once they are gone you can't get that knowledge back.

Author johnd
#2 | Posted: 8 Feb 2011 18:42 
I was lucky to train under Takeshima Sensei in Kochi once, the training was Tachi Uchi No Kurai, Iwara Sensei watched us from the sidelines, it was a great day.Takeshima Sensei was very polite and showed superb technique.

Author IanJ
#3 | Posted: 8 Feb 2011 23:33 
I envy you John. I would have liked to have seen Takeshima Sensei training. I heard the Iai in Kochi is still very dynamic. I hope to see their Iai some day.

Author IanJ
#4 | Posted: 20 Jul 2011 14:47 
Found this link yesterday while doing a bit of digging on the internet after seeing some video of Takeshima Sensei at the Summer seminar this weekend.


Author Vitor Da Silva
#5 | Posted: 11 Nov 2011 17:18 
Dear Ian J,

My name is Vitor and i do Iai / Jikiden at the Hokumon Dojo in Preston. I am new and am doing some research concerning our School. With all the respect, i do have three questions about lineage.
My questions are:
1 - Who is presently our Soke?
2 - Where does he live?
3 - Where can I find some information about our Soke?


Vitor Da Silva

Author IanJ
#6 | Posted: 17 Nov 2011 19:29 
Hello Vitor,

Welcome to the forum.

Good but controversial questions, to some anyway.

You can read more about lineage on the eikoku roshukai website here: http://eikoku-roshukai.com/index.php?title=MJER_History

The above lineage explains in some detail the different branches. Soke Oe Masamichi did not name a successor and from his senior students three branches emerged (Hokiyama, Yamauchi and Masaoka). The current leader of each of these branches now seem to be affiliated with one or another japanese budo / iaido association and call themselves Soke.

To be frank we (as a group) don't have a soke, and we never had one. Iwata Sensei was our acting soke. He himself trained in Kochi for a period of years with senior students of Oe Masamichi (17th Soke), one of Iwata Sensei's teachers later became 19th Soke (Fukui Harumasa). Iwata Sensei received Menkyo Kaiden from two of these teachers. Menkyo literally means license and in MJER that has been seen as a license to teach the ryu to others.

The teachers who are carrying on Iwata Sensei's teachings are Yabe Sensei and Nishimoto Sensei. If you have been to either of the past two summer seminars you will know them as our teachers.

Meanwhile probably the only man, in my humble and probably much contended opinion, that you could call MJER Soke is Muranaga Soke who resides in Kochi who was named by Takeshima Soke to be his successor. This is explained on the shoshinshaz.com link in the message above yours.

I'm expecting much heat from this discussion if anyone else should join in, so I hope it answers your questions.



Author Vitor Da Silva
#7 | Posted: 20 Nov 2011 12:02 
Hi Ian,

Thank you very much for all the information, much appreciated.

For your guidance i have been at the last summer seminar, and yes i do know our great Teachers Yabe Sensei and Nishimoto Sensei and am very happy with them, as well as with our School, and our Seniores.

Moreover, and in particular i am very proud and forever thankful to my direct Teachers @ the Hokumon Dojo in Preston: Chris, Eddie, David, Gary, Tristan and Anthony - for their help, guidance and precious theachings. (It is great to have six different Teachers!)

For me, my friend Ian, Lineage and History are important and have its place plus all my respect, but the last thing that i woul want is controversy because of me. My apologies for touching the matter, it was only about my research - and i am very happy with your clear explanation too.

Thanks again Ian.



Onegai Shimasu

Author IanJ
#8 | Posted: 20 Nov 2011 14:15 
Hello Vitor,

We have met at one of Brians seminars and also the summer seminar (tall, slim guy with shaved head, from seirokan in norfolk).

I think it was Iwata Sensei that once said you should have a lifetime's gratitude towards your teachers, and in my opinion the same for your sempai (more senior students). If it weren't for them then progress would be very difficult, initially we know nothing or very little about the art, through their experience and guidance we benefit greatly.

You should consider the people senior to you in your dojo your sempai, more junior your kohai. Nishimoto Sensei and Yabe Sensei are our teachers and out of respect for them they are the only people I will call sensei (teacher). I have been told-off by Brian in the past when he thought I called him sensei "Iwata Sensei is our teacher". Though I have noticed that a number of his direct students now call him sensei...

It is important, I think, to know our lineage and how it has evolved which is why I did the research and put the information on the website. Some might find it controversial but it's to the best of my knowledge the truth and everyone has a right to know it. I find it disappointing when people don't have at least some knowledge of, or interest in, the origins of the ryu they study.

Please keep up the research and if you find something I've missed or to be incorrect then please let me know.

With regard to usage of 'Onegaishimasu'. I have noticed Eddie using this a lot in emails etc. It means to ask a favor. If the word is used alone then the favor being asked is judged based on what you are talking about or the circumstances.

When we begin training and do reiho to our instructor or teacher we would say 'Onegaishimasu', the favor you are asking, based on circumstance, is that of him teaching you.

If you were at a restaurant and wanted the bill then you could say 'O-kanjo onegaishimasu'. So you specify the favor you're asking, it is simply a polite way of requesting something.

Best regards,


Author Vitor Da Silva
#9 | Posted: 20 Nov 2011 19:56 
Hello Ian,

Yes, i know who you are now! Nice to hear from you, hope you well.

Thank you for your post Ian - very educating!

And yes, i will carry on with my research and i also like to know the truth. However, i don't wish to upset no one.

Thanks again Ian, and i will take my notes regarding the Japanese terms.



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